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Simplify, by excluding cards already shown at article.  Hides image names, organizes cards by type.
Simplify, by excluding cards already shown at article.  Hides image names, organizes cards by type.
Special cases include the Flutterscotches, where each color may have their own type of card.  By hand per color?
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Revision as of 03:19, 18 September 2009


  • Navigate a growing collection of cards
  • Search for cards?
    • Can this be done via the/a search engine?
  • Organize/present cards by type or relevance for any article
  • Friendly, intuitive


  • Low-maintenance - Doesn't require (much/any) article editing to maintain, as new cards are added
  • Low-overhead - Not intensive to compute
  • Low-footprint - Articles not filled with many card images



PV icon

Requires upgrade to 1.14 to work.

Can be used in many places to add a link to a card, however it's not necessarily intuitive that it's clickable. A user would have to hover over it to see that it's a clickable link.

In-table, such as the General Store, transformation, or list of concept art articles:

Picture # Picture type
1/139 PV icon.png Raisant

Inline, such as from species articles:

Feeding it a banana split PV icon.png changes its color to yellow.

Dynamic Page List (DPL)

Present a list in a collapsible table. There's some overhead to dynamically generate these lists, and it's not certain what, if any, impact there would be from popular articles. The advantage is that relevant cards, once categorized so DPL can look them up, can be shown at an article, so you could see (links to) all Kittyfloss cards at the Kittyfloss article, all trick stick cards at the trick stick article, all weather cards at the weather article, etc.

The example is a bit contrived, but shows that there could be lots of different relevant cards, making the list itself a bit unwieldy to "navigate."

Note that subgarden species have their own cards, e.g., Mate Cutscene zz1snowrabbit, zz2sandant. Sours also have their own cards, e.g., Appear Cutscene crowpest, Blackariant zz1lemmingpest.

Do we group all in one DPL, or have 2 or 3 separate DPLs on an article?

By hand

Simplify, by excluding cards already shown at article. Hides image names, organizes cards by type.

Special cases include the Flutterscotches, where each color may have their own type of card. By hand per color?

Transclude (from PV NS?)

Since the results are "static," result sets could live in other articles, and be transcluded in topic articles:

Kittyfloss cards, Sour Kittyfloss cards, Arctic Kittyfloss cards

{{:Kittyfloss cards}} {{:Arctic Kittyfloss cards}}


  • Avoid DPL
  • Avoid adding lots of new categories to support DPL or navigation
  • Result sets get categorized as articles themselves, and become the basis for topical navigation.
  • Save having to categorize hundreds of existing/new images.


  • Result sets can't be anything more than a result set.
  • PV category tree becomes flattened.
  • Only supports navigation by "set," but is equivalent to sub-category articles, however, there is no equivalent to "These are the articles in the category."
  • Maintained by hand.

Variations on this - Turn the result sets into proper articles, then transclude the article as its own PV card tab. Downside is that the DL for the species article is even bigger -- more content, more images(?) -- and we're delivering even more content that the visitor may not need/be interested in.

Non-card-specific approaches

Section headings

Many items (e.g., junk props, test candy) are PV-exclusive, and can't be bought in the General Store.

We should lead those sections with some note to see the navigation article for more items. (Wording to be determined.)

Infobox headings

Possibly change Housing to Housing cards, and Romance dance to Romance dance cards?

Hover boxes could present details, such as PV card, availability level, cost, method to obtain, etc. This could keep PV images, Journal descriptions, and other-article details off an article itself, yet easily available without having to navigate elsewhere.

Chilies share their color with fire engines. The engine is famous for stopping fires, while the chili will start one in the mouth of anything that is brave or foolish enough to eat it.


  • Buy a chili, General Store at level 11, 500 cc.
  • Plant a chili seed, General Store at level 11, 22 cc.
  • Hire Bart to tinker a Jeli.

One possibility is to think how articles could be reorganized to support a popup gadget approach.

Types of cards, the (shorter navigation) articles they'd be browsed from, and their longer topic (or relevant) articles they'd also be accessible from.

The article names are a bit arbitrary at this point, and may change slightly from internal descriptions to more familiar terms.

Also, there are distinctions for some items that differ between card types and wiki categories, e.g., fruits, vegetables, produce, tinkered items. Need to check this, and determine how these cards should be grouped for navigation.

We're possibly missing more granular navigation for popular items. Black pinatas, although a sub-topic/sub-category of variants, may deserve their own topic article and navigation. Other ways to handle groups of items within a type include subheadings within (large) navigation articles. Props is a good example, and junk items a popular type of props.

Since many new cards are PV-exclusive, and their items can't be bought in-game, those items couldn't be shown/linked in shop tables, but would only be found on their navigation articles.

Finally, unsupported/test items deserve a clear warning on their navigation or image article topics. Is it necessary to navigate unsupported items? Test candy belongs with the candy cards, but should we have an Unsupported cards topic/category also?

Types of cards Navigate from Available from
Weather cards Weather cards Weather
Cutscene cards
  • Mate cutscene cards
Mate cutscene cards, Romance dance cards? species articles, Romance(?)
  • Appear cutscene cards
Appear cutscene cards species articles
ViewTagInJournal cards Journal cards species articles
UnlockArt cards Concept art cards species articles, concept art
UnlockTag cards
  • ZZTrickStick cards
Trick stick cards trick stick
TimeWarp cards Timewarp cards Day and night cycle
PlaceTag cards
  • Sweet cards
Sweet cards Candy
  • Seed cards
Seed cards plants articles
  • Prop cards
Prop cards General Store
  • Produce cards
Produce cards plants articles
  • BifTree cards
Plant cards plants articles
  • BifPlant cards
Plant cards plants articles
  • ZZToy cards
Toy cards General Store
  • Paving cards
Paving cards General Store
  • Home cards
Home cards, House(?) cards,Housing(?) cards Willy Builder
  • Fruit cards
Fruit cards plants articles
  • Egg cards
Egg cards species articles
  • Vegetable cards
Vegetable cards plants articles
Trick cards
  • Perform trick cards
Perform trick cards species articles
  • Learn trick cards
Learn trick cards species articles
Variant cards
  • GoodVariants cards
Variant cards species articles
  • Blackariants cards
group with variant cards or split as Black variant cards species articles
Ruffian cards Ruffian cards Ruffian
Pest cards Sour cards species articles

VivaPinata.com (searchable) organization

  • Species
  • Species - variant
  • Species - wildcard
  • Species - variant wildcard
  • Helpers
  • Homes
  • Eggs
  • Etc - Improvements (fences, gates, other props, toys, paving, etc.)
  • Etc - Greenery (Fruit, produce, vegetables, tinkered items, plants, seeds, etc.)
  • Etc - Candy (Life sweets, other sweets -- joy, golf, romance, etc.)