Template talk:Div
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This is turning into a maintenance nightmare. If you can't decide whether it should be svp or svpc or vpc or vpcs, then perhaps it's not ready for live use. The objective isn't to give you or me or other editors three or four different shorthands for the exact same div. We're already ending up with different live articles that use different abbreviations, depending on what the favorite spelling was at the time, and that's just not reasonable. While backward compatibility might be reasonable for 1.x to 2.x, after a template was in live use for an extended time, I don't see the point of supporting the earlier string ideas that transpired in the last day or so, from 0.1x to 0.4x. Perhaps a good place to start is to look at the different class names in MediaWiki:Common.css. The object-game-qualifier style you see there isn't just a CSS naming convention, but one that is meant to be consistent across the wiki too, such as with templates and images:
Since it appears that you're trying to compress classes into a 3-4 character string, you might want to look at some questions to consider:
I was willing to adopt this and give it a shot, but it looks like this is still in development, and you haven't finalized your values yet. It would be helpful, please, if you'd clean up any other live articles that have various iterations of svp or whatever, and switch them back to the original div markup, for now. In the future, let's try things like this out on Mousezilla or some other sandbox, first, until it's ready for adoption. I'm going to catch up with whatever else is going on, then get back to my plant articles, and just use our longer conventional names. Once you feel this is robust and stable, Jim or I would be happy to take another look at this and see if it's ready for actual use. --FeralKitty (talk) 10:45, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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divcodes
Can you look at User:Xenocidic#Div codes for tabs/formatting and tell me if I'm missing anything? Is there a jff article div code? –xenocidic (talk) 13:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)Never mind - I'll pull the necessary codes from MediaWiki:Common.css
- Sure, I can glance at it in a bit, but I need to get back to the plants stuff and make some more progress first. Those articles need to get done by today, so most of my attention needs to be there. --FeralKitty (talk) 13:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok. I've re-purposed div, by the way. It should be more useful and less resource intensive - instead of a switch it just accepts the class name and puts it in. defaults to a TIP article so you can just use subst:div to create the tab for a TIP article. As it is now, it will only create tabs though, perhaps it should be renamed to "tab". –xenocidic (talk) 14:03, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, but I don't really understand why we need it. We don't tend to create a lot of articles, and I know the ones I create I just copy-and-paste from a similar article, or the "blank" species and plant templates. It may be a neat thing, but it seems like a lot of effort working on it, for little reward. Got to get back to the plants. --FeralKitty (talk) 14:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok. I've re-purposed div, by the way. It should be more useful and less resource intensive - instead of a switch it just accepts the class name and puts it in. defaults to a TIP article so you can just use subst:div to create the tab for a TIP article. As it is now, it will only create tabs though, perhaps it should be renamed to "tab". –xenocidic (talk) 14:03, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, I can glance at it in a bit, but I need to get back to the plants stuff and make some more progress first. Those articles need to get done by today, so most of my attention needs to be there. --FeralKitty (talk) 13:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
div & divclear
OK, the new and improved {{div}} & {{divclear}} (divclear was {{clear}}</div></div>) should help people create tabs on the fly a lot easier and are inline with the css names. divclear will clear all text and close a tab. I suppose it can be subst'ed, do you think it will be heavy on the processor if we leave it transcluded? how about the new div, which passes the paramaters directly rather than through a switch? –xenocidic (talk) 01:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
