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Note that subgarden species have their own cards, e.g., Mate Cutscene zz1snowrabbit, zz2sandant. | Note that subgarden species have their own cards, e.g., Mate Cutscene zz1snowrabbit, zz2sandant. | ||
− | Sours also have their own cards, e.g., Appear Cutscene crowpest, Blackariant zz1lemmingpest. | + | Sours (and different Flutterscotch colors) also have their own cards, e.g., Appear Cutscene crowpest, blackbutterfly. Blackariant zz1lemmingpest. UnlockArt bluebutterfly. |
Do we group all in one DPL, or have 2 or 3 separate DPLs on an article? | Do we group all in one DPL, or have 2 or 3 separate DPLs on an article? | ||
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|align="right"|Other:||[[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-Egg-PV.jpg|Egg]] '''·''' [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-LifeSweet-PV.jpg|Life sweet]] '''·''' [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-House-PV.jpg|House]] '''·''' [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-ConceptArt-PV.jpg|Unlock concept art]] | |align="right"|Other:||[[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-Egg-PV.jpg|Egg]] '''·''' [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-LifeSweet-PV.jpg|Life sweet]] '''·''' [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-House-PV.jpg|House]] '''·''' [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-ConceptArt-PV.jpg|Unlock concept art]] | ||
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+ | === Hybrid === | ||
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+ | Have links to a few (e.g., 3) of the more popular cards on the species page, with a More... link to another page where visitors could see all the cards for that species. That page could be DPL, a category, or a navigation or topic article. | ||
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+ | : [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-Black-PV.jpg|Black variant]] '''·''' [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-Variant6-PV.jpg|Sky-blue-pink variant]] '''·''' [[:Image:Kittyfloss-TroubleInParadise-ConceptArt-PV.jpg|Unlock concept art]] '''·''' [[More...]] | ||
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+ | It lets (species) article visitors know about other cards, while minimizing overhead -- e.g., DPL query moved off the species page -- or cramming more content into the longish species articles. Species articles remain static once 3 popular cards are there, so ''n'' species articles don't have to be maintained by hand each time new cards are released. | ||
=== Transclude (from PV NS?) === | === Transclude (from PV NS?) === |
Revision as of 21:12, 19 September 2009
Objectives
- Navigate a growing collection of cards
- Search for cards?
- Can this be done via the/a search engine?
- Organize/present cards by type or relevance for any article
- Friendly, intuitive
Desirable
- Low-maintenance - Doesn't require (much/any) article editing to maintain, as new cards are added
- Low-overhead - Not intensive to compute
- Low-footprint - Articles not filled with many card images
Approaches
PV icon
- Requires upgrade to 1.14 to work.
Can be used in many places to add a link to a card, however it's not necessarily intuitive that it's clickable. A user would have to hover over it to see that it's a clickable link.
In-table, such as the General Store, transformation, or list of concept art articles:
Picture # | Picture type |
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1/139 ![]() |
Raisant |
Inline, such as from species articles:
- Feeding it a banana split
changes its color to yellow.
Dynamic Page List (DPL)
Present a list in a collapsible table. There's some overhead to dynamically generate these lists, and it's not certain what, if any, impact there would be from popular articles. The advantage is that relevant cards, once categorized so DPL can look them up, can be shown at an article, so you could see (links to) all Kittyfloss cards at the Kittyfloss article, all trick stick cards at the trick stick article, all weather cards at the weather article, etc.
The example is a bit contrived, but shows that there could be lots of different relevant cards, making the list itself a bit unwieldy to "navigate."
Note that subgarden species have their own cards, e.g., Mate Cutscene zz1snowrabbit, zz2sandant. Sours (and different Flutterscotch colors) also have their own cards, e.g., Appear Cutscene crowpest, blackbutterfly. Blackariant zz1lemmingpest. UnlockArt bluebutterfly.
Do we group all in one DPL, or have 2 or 3 separate DPLs on an article?
By hand
Simplify, by excluding cards already shown at article. Hides image names, organizes cards by type.
Special cases include the Flutterscotches, where each color may have their own type of card. By hand per color?
Other Kittyfloss Piñata Vision cards | |
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Arctic Kittyfloss · Russia challenge | |
Variants: | Sky-blue-pink · Black · Arctic pink · Arctic blue · Arctic pink and blue |
Tricks: | Learn primary · Learn secondary · Perform primary · Perform secondary |
Cutscenes: | Appear · Romance dance |
Other: | Egg · Life sweet · House · Unlock concept art |
Hybrid
Have links to a few (e.g., 3) of the more popular cards on the species page, with a More... link to another page where visitors could see all the cards for that species. That page could be DPL, a category, or a navigation or topic article.
It lets (species) article visitors know about other cards, while minimizing overhead -- e.g., DPL query moved off the species page -- or cramming more content into the longish species articles. Species articles remain static once 3 popular cards are there, so n species articles don't have to be maintained by hand each time new cards are released.
Transclude (from PV NS?)
Since the results are "static," result sets could live in other articles, and be transcluded in topic articles:
Kittyfloss cards, Sour Kittyfloss cards, Arctic Kittyfloss cards
{{:Kittyfloss cards}} {{:Arctic Kittyfloss cards}}
Pros:
- Avoid DPL
- Avoid adding lots of new categories to support DPL or navigation
- Result sets get categorized as articles themselves, and become the basis for topical navigation.
- Save having to categorize hundreds of existing/new images.
Cons:
- Result sets can't be anything more than a result set.
- PV category tree becomes flattened.
- Only supports navigation by "set," but is equivalent to sub-category articles, however, there is no equivalent to "These are the articles in the category."
- Maintained by hand.
Variations on this - Turn the result sets into proper articles, then transclude the article as its own PV card tab. Downside is that the DL for the species article is even bigger -- more content, more images(?) -- and we're delivering even more content that the visitor may not need/be interested in.
Non-card-specific approaches
Section headings
Many items (e.g., junk props, test candy) are PV-exclusive, and can't be bought in the General Store.
We should lead those sections with some note to see the navigation article for more items. (Wording to be determined.)
Infobox headings
Possibly change Housing to Housing cards, and Romance dance to Romance dance cards?
Hover boxes could present details, such as PV card, availability level, cost, method to obtain, etc. This could keep PV images, Journal descriptions, and other-article details off an article itself, yet easily available without having to navigate elsewhere.
Chili Chilies share their color with fire engines. The engine is famous for stopping fires, while the chili will start one in the mouth of anything that is brave or foolish enough to eat it.
Availability
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One possibility is to think how articles could be reorganized to support a popup gadget approach.
Types of cards, the (shorter navigation) articles they'd be browsed from, and their longer topic (or relevant) articles they'd also be accessible from.
The article names are a bit arbitrary at this point, and may change slightly from internal descriptions to more familiar terms.
Also, there are distinctions for some items that differ between card types and wiki categories, e.g., fruits, vegetables, produce, tinkered items. Need to check this, and determine how these cards should be grouped for navigation.
We're possibly missing more granular navigation for popular items. Black pinatas, although a sub-topic/sub-category of variants, may deserve their own topic article and navigation. Other ways to handle groups of items within a type include subheadings within (large) navigation articles. Props is a good example, and junk items a popular type of props.
Since many new cards are PV-exclusive, and their items can't be bought in-game, those items couldn't be shown/linked in shop tables, but would only be found on their navigation articles.
Finally, unsupported/test items deserve a clear warning on their navigation or image article topics. Is it necessary to navigate unsupported items? Test candy belongs with the candy cards, but should we have an Unsupported cards topic/category also?
Types of cards | Navigate from | Available from |
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Weather cards | Weather cards | Weather |
Cutscene cards | ||
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Mate cutscene cards, Romance dance cards? | species articles, Romance(?) |
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Appear cutscene cards | species articles |
ViewTagInJournal cards | Journal cards | species articles |
UnlockArt cards | Concept art cards | species articles, concept art |
UnlockTag cards | ||
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Trick stick cards | trick stick |
TimeWarp cards | Timewarp cards | Day and night cycle |
PlaceTag cards | ||
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Sweet cards | Candy |
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Seed cards | plants articles |
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Prop cards | General Store |
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Produce cards | plants articles |
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Plant cards | plants articles |
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Plant cards | plants articles |
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Toy cards | General Store |
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Paving cards | General Store |
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Home cards, House(?) cards,Housing(?) cards | Willy Builder |
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Fruit cards | plants articles |
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Egg cards | species articles |
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Vegetable cards | plants articles |
Trick cards | ||
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Perform trick cards | species articles |
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Learn trick cards | species articles |
Variant cards | ||
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Variant cards | species articles |
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group with variant cards or split as Black variant cards | species articles |
Ruffian cards | Ruffian cards | Ruffian |
Pest cards | Sour cards | species articles |
VivaPinata.com (searchable) organization
- Species
- Species - variant
- Species - wildcard
- Species - variant wildcard
- Helpers
- Homes
- Eggs
- Etc - Improvements (fences, gates, other props, toys, paving, etc.)
- Etc - Greenery (Fruit, produce, vegetables, tinkered items, plants, seeds, etc.)
- Etc - Candy (Life sweets, other sweets -- joy, golf, romance, etc.)