no incentive for master romancer?

[slowdog76]

with no achievement attached to this, is there any real point to master romancing each species?

dont get me wrong, i get the whole wildcard and varient hunting side of things, but it seems to me there is no real reward to make the whole thing necessary.

i'll tell you why im hoping this isnt the case. the one thing that annoyed me with last years game was the flutterscotches. the sheer number of them that was needed to be bred to master romance each varient was phenominal. and waaaaaaaay OTT. now, not only do you have to do that, but they are also a breeding requirement for lickatoads (well.....the green ones are anyway.) i havent encountered another species where something similar is necessary yet. apart from the cluckles, but whirlms breed like rabbits.

i may be wrong. there may well be something im missing, but from what i've seen so far, there is no real reward for doing so.

on a side note, the species i have bred to master level i have boxed up and posted to myself. do i really need to keep all of them, or should i just keep the wildcard and more valuable versions of each and use the rest as fodder when needed? what do you think?

[sleepyowl]

Sure, there's no XBox Achievement, but isn't the point to enjoy a game? If you don't want to master romance, then don't! You're right though, there's no incentive per say, aside from satisfaction of game completion. For me, I like the in-game achievements in the journal. Completing the journal to me is as important as trying to get the Live Achievements. And before the Jameleon needed a green flutterscotch to romance, so that's not really new, just a different species. And what sort of reward are you looking for?

I think the mastery of things in the game was a big part of Classic. I think it would lose something if they left it out. Especially since a lot of people like the Wild Cards, the new point of master romancing.

I box up all of mine too, but unless I need them later, I only save WCs. I haven't gotten the third tier of WC for anything yet, so having four of WC 1 or 2 is a better start than none, in my opinion. If you think something will be used as fodder, maybe save it. Or evolving things. I also box up my tamed sours until I can actually do something with them.

[zach]

LOL, priorities... The quicker you learn that enjoyment is more important than some points, the more fun you'll have.

[Pretztail4eva]

just a quick question about master romancing:

do you still have to have the 7 pinatas in your garden or do you have to just romance until you have romanced up to your 7th species?

[zach]

Yes. I haven't played the game yet but it will be the same :p

[slowdog76]

you slightly misunderstand. i was very careful not to mention the word "points" and left it as a broader question. sure points are an incentive to a degree, and there were 'cheevs in the first game along those lines.

however, i kept it as a broad "reward" as im happy with anything. something in game to unlock upon completion of all the in game awards. the first game had the 'cheevs, the second has...well...nothing it seems.

dont get me wrong, i will play this game to completion. how i progress from here on in changes on this basis alone. for now, i will tackle each species once and just go with the flow, rather than breed everything to death. that can be done later

[Br26]

well, even if you don't get an achievement this time around, it's still very useful. master romancing a certain species that you don't like can be led to banning said species. it's also very helpful in leveling up...so there are still very good reasons to master romance species.

[FlakPanzer4]

with no achievement attached to this, is there any real point to master romancing each species?

dont get me wrong, i get the whole wildcard and varient hunting side of things, but it seems to me there is no real reward to make the whole thing necessary.

i'll tell you why im hoping this isnt the case. the one thing that annoyed me with last years game was the flutterscotches. the sheer number of them that was needed to be bred to master romance each varient was phenominal. and waaaaaaaay OTT. now, not only do you have to do that, but they are also a breeding requirement for lickatoads (well.....the green ones are anyway.) i havent encountered another species where something similar is necessary yet. apart from the cluckles, but whirlms breed like rabbits.

i may be wrong. there may well be something im missing, but from what i've seen so far, there is no real reward for doing so.

on a side note, the species i have bred to master level i have boxed up and posted to myself. do i really need to keep all of them, or should i just keep the wildcard and more valuable versions of each and use the rest as fodder when needed? what do you think?

Since when has enjoying a game been just for achievements or bragging rights? The point of this gAME (OR ANY GAME) is to have fun.

[slowdog76]

as i said, perhaps not clearly enough, it would have been nice to get a reward for putting all the time and effort into master breeding everything.

ok, so i mentioned 'cheevs at the start, but as i mentioned in my second post, anything would suffice. yes, playing a game is supposed to be fun. and this is. i wouldnt be playing it if i wasnt enjoying it. but that doesnt mean to say it wouldnt have been a nice addition to have included some kind of benefit (other than self gratification) for master romancing every species; a new pinata, exclusive accessories, maximum candiosity on everything you have for example.

in no way am i saying that i think the game suffers for it (or the lack of it). in fact, i wasnt even close to criticising, merely asking the question if there [I]was[I] anything. i only mentioned achievements as that isnt the reward. i didnt say it should be, just that it wasnt.

im still playing the game, and thoroughly enjoying it by the way. sure it has its faults, but the subject of this thread certainly isnt one of them. just a strange omission, if indeed it is.

[zach]

Is there any real point in master romancing species? Yes. As Br26 said, becoming a master romancer allows you to ban species. Getting the awards helps you level up and also makes the mini-games more challenging.

[Srikandi]

Besides the banning perk -- which is awesome btw, in my opinion this is the single most useful improvement in the game, since for the first time you can actually fully control the contents of your garden -- you pretty much have to get to Master Romancer to get the twins/wildcards, don't you? Since that's the only way to get to the hardest level of the romance game.

So MR is now a means to another more interesting pair of ends rather than an end in itself.

[zach]

Really? I don't own the game yet but I thought you could get twins/wildcards at any time as long as you met the requirements (time, lives, hearts).

[Srikandi]

You're probably right :) I guess I just don't bother to be that careful till the last round.

[zach]

Yeah, you're more careful with your lives so you do better.

[jwmc1971]

how many times do you have to breed a pinata to get this award ?! ive hatched over 10 of the worms and no award .

[FeralKitty]

... I thought you could get twins/wildcards at any time as long as you met the requirements (time, lives, hearts).

Nope. The information in the species articles was written before the game was out. You can only get twins/wildcards when hearts are flashing (i.e., you only have 1 life to start, in the minigame).

If you don't care about wildcards, awards, or leveling up (faster), you could skip the Master Romancer, but if you want to get your different wildcard versions for a species, you pretty much end up getting that Master Romancer award too.

how many times do you have to breed a pinata to get this award ?! ive hatched over 10 of the worms and no award .

For Trouble in Paradise, you earn it by romancing a species seven times. You probably already have it -- check your Journal's pinata awards section.

[zach]

Ohk so that's another incentive for master romancer. Wildcards and twins. Sounds like good awards/rewards to me, OP.

[Bastion6six6]

Well technically you only need 7 of that species in your garden at one time. You can just get Grethem Fetchem to find 7 of (x) pinata and you will get the award. And about that whole banning pinatas thing. Its possibly the greatest thing ever for completionists. Banning them means you will never see them outside your garden as long as they are banned. How is that useful outside the whole, zomfg another whirlm just became a resident without my knowing? Lets say you are trying to coax a particular pinata, and for some reason they almost never show up outside your garden, yet you notice there is ALWAYS a sparrowmint flying around the outskirts of the borders. If you master romancer the sparrowmint and ban it, that will be one less pinata to take up a space outside, thus giving your (x) pinata a better chance of appearing!