Garden Space?

[Chris&Sarah]

Hello.

I've read in several places that the maximum capacity of the gardens was supposed to have been increased sizably from the previous title, but I'm wondering if anyone else is encountering the "Garden Full" message with very little in their garden? Currently we have three houses, one fruit bearing shrub, one tree, ten small pinatas running around the garden and a Captain's Cutlass. If we try to put anything else in there we get the garden full...but the garden seems so barren and empty. There's barely anything in there!

I'm aware that pinatas on the perimeter of your garden (non-residents) take up some space and the fruit bearing bush/tree are counting the fruit as well as the bush.tree but that still doesn't seem to account for the lack of being able to put anything new in the garden right now. Anyone else experiencing this? How many things are the majority of people able to place into their garden?

Thanks for your help!

[SirMossy]

I seem to be able to put quite a sizeable amount in my garden, at one point I had a hell of a lot of pinatas in my garden and I had more space left.

Check the garden info and see exactly whats taking up the most space there.

[cuddles838]

I'm having the same problem. I have maybe 15 pinatas and 3 trees and some flowering plants. i don't understand it. The garden looks smaller to me as well. One time Lefos told me that my pinatas couldn't romance but there were hearts over the wirlms and lots of space left. maybe the garden space thing is a glitch. It's really annoying when the first one I could have even more stuff in the garden, I think Rare lied to us.

[jimmcq]

Go to the Journal and choose the "Garden Area" option... it should show you exactly what is taking up all that space.

[Chris&Sarah]

I have been keeping an eye on my available garden space throughout the last day. After selling a gem tree we had four and a half rows of available space left (which still seems odd to me since there's just so very little in the garden...it looks almost deserted) and couldn't even buy a piece of candy because we "didn't have enough room." I'm somewhat relieved to hear we're not the only ones experiencing this as everywhere else people such as SirMossy are talking about all the space they seem to have.

It's a shame. This is a terrific and fun game, but this thing is really shattering the fun for us :( We loaded up an old garden from the first game and it definitely had loads more going on inside of it with room to put even more. I think I agree with you, Cuddles.

[cuddles838]

I did and it shows that I still have 20 squares left, but at random times when I try to buy things it says my garden is full. i got rid of the gem tree which took up 10 squares, and still saying i don't have room. This is very frustrating.

[Chris&Sarah]

Yes, I have been keeping on eye on my journal to see what space is being taken up. We actually removed a gem tree a little while ago and found ourselves with four and half lines of space left but afterwards when we tried to drop a piece of candy on the ground we got the "your garden is full message" and it has stayed that way since. I'm glad to hear we're not the only ones encountering this problem though as elsewhere people such as SirMossy are saying they have quite a large number of things in their gardens.

As it stands now we have a garden that looks like a ghost town (a few scant plants and about eight pinatas and three houses) and are still unable to put anything new in the garden. I'm beginning to agree with Cuddles regarding the promised extra space...heck, we can't even make a garden that holds as much as previous ones on the prior game :(

Any input or ideas is appreciated!

[Hoser Daddy]

I remember hearing the Devs say that they were going to keep the garden size the same. Personally I would have liked a little more breathing space so that the garden doesn't end up being a crowded pen. At the moment I am keeping the population down to avoid crowding.

[Chris&Sarah]

Hey, Hoser Daddy. I'm not talking about the size of the garden...I'm talking about how much stuff I can put in it. It seems to be incredibly stunted as I can't get more than 15 or so mainly small items (pinatas, houses, flowers, etc) in it without getting the "your garden is full message."

We just started a new garden that is rife with twenty or so pinatas, fences, three trees and a couple of other knick-knacks and all of that is only taking up about three and a half lines (with outside animals, Pester, etc included). So is this a glitch or am I missing something that could help us save the first garden (we put a lot of work into that)? Any ideas?

Sadly, a new problem popped up because we got seven salamanders for this new garden and
(spoilers)
they're not doing their thing to rescue the elephant.
(/spoilers)
Sigh. VP. The more you change the more you stay the same.

Actually, scratch that comment about having success in a new garden. Granted it has more in it now, but we've still only filled up half of our usable space and when we tried to drop a crate to transport Salamangos into the old almost empty garden to do their aforementioned thing we were told we don't have enough space. Sadly, this is just starting to shatter the fun for us :(

[Bjorn]

Sadly, a new problem popped up because we got seven salamanders for this new garden and
(spoilers]they're not doing their thing to rescue the elephant.
(/spoilers)
Sigh. VP. The more you change the more you stay the same.

That is because the Salamango is not what you need.

Warning more spoilers ahead!








Try Redhotts

[FeralKitty]

Although the limits have been increased, I believe there are still type limits (http://pinataisland.info/viva/Frequently_Asked_Questions#FAQ-UI-GardenFull). If you can't add a particular thing to your garden, sell off other items of that type to make room.

Examples of things that aren't overly noticable, but add up, are produce (fruits, nuts, berries), seeds, and flowerheads lying around on the ground.

[Srikandi]

I've always assumed that the garden size limits has to do with physical memory limits on the xbox, in which case they couldn't very well increase it without issuing us all hardware upgrades.

[Chris&Sarah]

Thanks very much for that link, FeralKitty. It's good to have a general guideline but I have one little question left to anyone who can answer it. In that link it said the following:

Here are a few rough guidelines that might guide you as you manage your garden. These numbers may vary from garden to garden, depending on what's in your garden already.

* 36 piñatas (combined total of residents and visitors, it's not possible to get 36 resident piñata)
* about a dozen houses
* about a dozen trees
* about a few dozen plants
* about 2-3 dozen fence pieces
* about 20 transmuted items

Again, outside of the piñata limit which is fixed at 36, you may be able to fit a little more (or less) of a particular item, before you bump into a limit.

Does that mean we're supposed to be able to fit all of those things (roughly...I know it's not exact) into one garden? As things stand now we'd be incredibly lucky to get one set of those in without being told we couldn't put anything else in at all. I would say we can do about a quarter to a fifth of each of those before we get a "garden full" message regardless of what we try to put in. Thanks again to everyone for your advice and help! Please know that is is much appreciated :)

[BIGsheep]

As before, any limits mentioned are the absolute maximum limits you could reach and you cannot do everything at the same time. For instance, Fourheads take up more space than a Whirlm, due to the expensive of their faces (no, really), and so if you have several Fourheads your limits would be reduced. The same with trees, trees are expensive and so having some of those would eat into your maxium pinata limit, too.

I can categorically say that the limits have been increased but everyones gardens are different and each take up memory in their own special way depending on the layout.

One thing that I have myself noticed is that the animals "blocked" from coming into your garden, i.e. the Barkbark, the Dragumfly, the Gooba, etc, all seem to take up extra space. My advice would then be to try and unblock them as soon as possible to give you yet more room.

At the end of the day, we have done our best. On top of the first game we have added multiplayer, subgardens and mini-games, all of which has to be accounted for with system resources too - and at the same time for a worst case scenario - but every system has its limits.

As before, if you can't put an object of one type down, the first thing to think is that there are too many of that type already. Next, look at the blocked pinatas, the trees and then other pinatas for a series of priorities.

[Jambi Bum]

So I'm wondering why whenever I try to buy something it always says I don't have enough space. Even though I check my journal and it says I still have a good amount of spaces left. This really irks me because I would like to add some nice things to my garden but it won't let me. Anyone have any ideas on what I can do?

[FeralKitty]

Your garden is full (http://pinataisland.info/viva/Frequently_Asked_Questions#FAQ-UI-GardenFull) for the type of item you're trying to buy. Everything in your garden counts towards limits, whether it's seeds or flowerheads or plants or produce or houses.

Try selling off items lying around on the ground, if you're trying to place another garden item.

Also read BIGsheep's post, just above yours, for some good tips and insight.

[Jambi Bum]

Your garden is full (http://pinataisland.info/viva/Frequently_Asked_Questions#FAQ-UI-GardenFull) for the type of item you're trying to buy. Everything in your garden counts towards limits, whether it's seeds or flowerheads or plants or produce or houses.

Try selling off items lying around on the ground, if you're trying to place another garden item.

Also read BIGsheep's post, just above yours, for some good tips and insight.

See the thing is is that I am trying to buy a collar for one of my bark barks so that they can romance and it wont let me. I don't have any trees or plants anymore because I have been trying to do this. All I have is 28 pinatas, the cutlass, the well, and a statue.

[FeralKitty]

Do your other pinatas have many accessories? Is that Barkbark wearing 5 accessories already?

[BIGsheep]

As before, if you can't put an object of one type down, the first thing to think is that there are too many of that type already....that probably means that you have the maximum amount of accessories in the garden.

[Weapon X]

Yes me as well.....I got a garden full message and the pink hearts above the pinatas ready to romance turn to light green broken hearts. I will say that I have alot of pinatas, infact my garden looks rather busy but I was also admit I was REALLY disappointed I even got the message....:mad:
But what I found to be even more disappointing was that the actual full size of the playable garden at it's max size is no bigger then in the last game....:mad:

[jennrose]

I got a "Garden Full" message when I tried to buy the Dastardos shovel head. :confused:

What elements in the garden are affiliated with the shovel head? 'Cause I just have no idea what to sell to free up space for that.

[Jambi Bum]

Do your other pinatas have many accessories? Is that Barkbark wearing 5 accessories already?

Not really. The only ones that have anything are the ones that need to romance. I have one Bark Bark with a collar already and I need the other one to have one so I can romance them.

[BIGsheep]

I got a "Garden Full" message when I tried to buy the Dastardos shovel head. :confused:

What elements in the garden are affiliated with the shovel head? 'Cause I just have no idea what to sell to free up space for that.That's a general "oh darn, we really have no memory left!"

[Sedge]

Hey all,
I'm having similar issues to what is described within this thread.

I understand the item type limits, but this is what gets me. I remove some item types to replace them with new ones. Here is an example...

I removed 6 peices of standard fence with a view to replacing it with bird proof stuff - I could not add one piece of bird fence in or replace the original. My Pinata count was about 10, with a few trees, 15 pinometers of water and a hand full of Roses. As a note my area count showed 14 'free' spaces.

But all that being said, the new features and improvements make up for the few things which *i'm* not too keen on. Rare have never let the fans down with the games they have produced, so a big thank you to all who played a part in bring the game to market.

Pip pip

[rluto77]

I have heard some people say that they can fit way more items in their garden than you could in the first game.

Then I have also heard some people complain that their gardens are barren wastelands and they have messages saying they have no room left.

So which is it? Why are some users out of room with hardly anything in their garden, while other users say they can fit way more in there than before?

[FeralKitty]

So which is it? Why are some users out of room with hardly anything in their garden, while other users say they can fit way more in there than before?

Why does it have to be one or the other? If the game says it's full, then the game is probably right, and if it doesn't say it's full, the game is probably right, again.

Perhaps you should start a service to join co-op games and make an objective report of what someone has in their garden, when they get the message. Perhaps you'll put your finger on something they didn't recognize as taking up a lot of space, and can offer an explanation for what's happening.

[xenocidic]

don't forget that you don't need to do it all in a single garden. consider crating up some of the pinatas you're not actively working on and storing them in your post office.

themed gardens 4tw. i have 6 already.

oh, and those blocks pinatas really do take up a lot of room. try to unblock them as soon as possible.