3rd Wildcard versions? [Archive] - PinataIsland.info Forum

Bastion6six6

09-05-2008, 04:51 PM

The official details have been posted as to how to get all three versions (http://pinataisland.info/forum/showthread.php?p=248741&highlight=famous+pinata#post248741). Further instructions can be found at the wiki's wildcard article.

First wildcard is gotten from doing the minigame at max difficulty with all the hearts.

Second wildcard is doing that with two tier 1 wildcards.

Though I've done that with tier 2 wildcards and i just get tier 2 again, even twins and its still the same.

Any1 know the way for getting the final wildcard form?

Elwakka

09-05-2008, 05:54 PM

try teaching your wildcards both tricks then try?

Sprig285

09-05-2008, 06:14 PM

I've got all 3 Whirlm types just romanced the Wildcards and got all of them it might be that the 3rd is down to luck i'm not sure tho i just romanced the 2nd Wildcard of the Sweetles and didnt get the 3rd but the 2nd Sweetles are awesome :p

FlakPanzer4

09-05-2008, 07:07 PM

Sprig285

09-05-2008, 07:27 PM

Well it was on my friends garden i romanced them tho :p i'll see if i can get 1

Edit: Guess what now i cant get 1 lol but Spoiler Ahead!!!

for the people that what to know what it looks like

It just has like Rabbit ears I guess looks awesome :)

Wolf989

09-05-2008, 09:40 PM

i teached the tricks to 2 "2nd wildcard" custacean and i romanced them but i got another "2nd wildcard"..

is there a 3rd, or not? :confused:

EDIT: i'm sorry i only teached one trick to each :roll:

FeralKitty

09-06-2008, 05:27 AM

is there a 3rd, or not? :confused:

Yes, there's a third WC version. I've seen pics for all three Whirlm WC versions and all three Bispotti WC versions.

I don't think the strategy is completely known yet, as to how to get the third one. It's possible that collecting all the hearts only increases the chance, for the most difficult trait, but doesn't guarantee the third one.

Stay tuned, and someone will solve the mystery :)

Bastion6six6

09-06-2008, 09:02 PM

Currently I am attempting to get the 3rd version for Limeoceros's by doing everything possible to make them more valuable. Different color variant, 2nd version wildcards,taught all tricks (learning one trick + being a wildcard made them superstars btw), is there anything else im missing? i Remember when i had a dragumfly and redhott in the same garden they constantly fought, and the redhott always won, eventually he became a bronze medal fighter. I wonder if there is a gold medal one and if that will aid at all. feel free to chip in with your own suggestions/experiences.

Edit: I just updated the wiki with info on how to attain said variants/tricks for those that are curious.

Zap657

09-06-2008, 09:05 PM

Has anyone tried romancing a 1st WC trait pinata with a 2nd WC trait pinata together yet? I've always been romancing 2 2nd trait WCs together for the third, and I can't really try this ATM.

Bastion6six6

09-06-2008, 09:08 PM

I thought about that as well Zap, ima try it now.

Edit: nope, both are level 2 wildcards still.

Super Edit: Just romanced the 2 super star rhinos, both dif color variants with both tricks learned yada yada, and guess what! they birthed 2 beautiful 2nd wildcard rhinos! :( MUST FIGURE THIS OUT!

Grey Jinjo

09-06-2008, 09:58 PM

To get the first wild card you need six regular pinatas of the same type in your garden.

Perhaps to get the third wild card you need six wild card pinatas of the same type in your garden? Has that been tried?

sleepyowl

09-06-2008, 10:22 PM

That's another interesting idea. I know everyone's trying to figure it out.

Bastion6six6

09-06-2008, 11:36 PM

You dont need 6 regular pinatas, you simply need 6 pinatas so it raises the difficulty, their quality or rarity adds nothing to the minigame itself besides the fact that they are contributing to the 6 pinatas needed to do it. I've made over a dozen level 2 wildcards from my limeoceros', still nothing, the garden has been full of level 2's all night.

Bastion6six6

09-07-2008, 12:24 PM

Tried everything i can think of, perhaps the 3rd wildcard variant is like it was in the first game, completely random? If so it will be hugely disappointing.

SuperBlender

09-07-2008, 03:32 PM

I tried everything I could think of too, including finding all variants and even got to 5th on the leaderboard for the minigame time. :) I thought it might have something to do with that, but now I don't think so. You know, maybe if the final wildcard is totally random, that will sooth the people who are upset that the first two are so easy to get. Then we'll still have a chance wildcard that involves hours and hours of hard work, and the person who manages to get it can be recognized for it and distribute it through vision cards.

Bastion6six6

09-07-2008, 03:37 PM

meh, spending an uncountable amount of hours for a single wildcard that could be gotten by some lucky guy in 5 minutes=fail

Helpful

09-07-2008, 04:21 PM

meh, spending an uncountable amount of hours for a single wildcard that could be gotten by some lucky guy in 5 minutes=fail I wouldn't say so. Wouldn't it be nice if you were the first one to find a Wild Card v.3 ______? I know it was pretty annoying in the last game, but that is what made it so hard to put down after you completed it. (I had up to 3000 and something badgecicles)

Doesn't the Wiki say something about getting all of the coins?

Bastion6six6

09-07-2008, 04:33 PM

the wiki's wildcard info in TIP is debunked, those were done before the final product was made public, thats an old archetype. And i dont want the 3rd wildcard so i can feel like i accomplished somethings, i want it for a cool looking pinata. Nothing more, if i wanted to achieve something id go to work, not kill myself trying to get this.

Helpful

09-07-2008, 04:40 PM

I am beginning to think that it is random, but not as random as before if someone already got a V3...

Bastion6six6

09-07-2008, 04:45 PM

if it is random then it is possible its better chances, maybe like 1/50 or sumtin, or it could still be 1/40000 or w.e the first game was and sum1 just coulda gotten lucky. we wont know until either sum1 finds a sure way to produce them or RARE confirms that its random.

Klinny

09-07-2008, 06:29 PM

Well, I tried a few things to see if I could get a Version 3 Wildcard Sweetle.

I sent both version 2 Sweetles to parties, taught them both their tricks, and made sure their Candiosity meter was filled. However, all of their children were version 2.

I also tried breeding version 1 and 2 wildcards together, but no luck either.

Grey Jinjo

09-07-2008, 06:41 PM

I have a third wildcard version of the Whirlm I think. Is that new or has it been found and no one knows how?

dustinmroberts

09-07-2008, 06:42 PM

I just posted a thread with a picture of a 3rd wildcard whirlm and what I did to get it (twins actually).

edit:
My post hasn't shown up yet, so here's the link to the picture. Oh, and if you romance two 3rd wildcard versions together, you get 3rd wildcard version.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4111/6d6760bab95147fc832d88cuw5.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6d6760bab95147fc832d88cuw5.jpg)

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/9281/10cda8ec967f476b9a30e4asl6.th.jpg (http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10cda8ec967f476b9a30e4asl6.jpg)

Helpful

09-07-2008, 06:53 PM

I just posted a thread with a picture of a 3rd wildcard whirlm and what I did to get it (twins actually).

My post hasn't shown up yet, so here's the link to the picture. Oh, and if you romance two 3rd wildcard versions together, you get 3rd wildcard version.

http://www.vivapinata.com/blowout.aspx?id=0D1109E317C6559C7E00&mode=4 I can't see the picture.

It must be my Laptop that isn't letting me see the pictures. I couldn't see another picture from some one else, too.

Elwakka

09-07-2008, 07:17 PM

Oh, and if you romance two 3rd wildcard versions together, you get 3rd wildcard version.

Even if there are just two of them and you don't get all the hearts and just finish normally?

dustinmroberts

09-07-2008, 07:19 PM

No, it still has to be when the hearts are flashing. You still have to have at least six in the garden, and get all of the hearts.

Bastion6six6

09-07-2008, 07:20 PM

I just posted a thread with a picture of a 3rd wildcard whirlm and what I did to get it (twins actually).

edit:
My post hasn't shown up yet, so here's the link to the picture. Oh, and if you romance two 3rd wildcard versions together, you get 3rd wildcard version.

Where does it say how you got them, all you've posted is the pictures.

Grey Jinjo

09-07-2008, 07:25 PM

I can say how I got mine, although it isn't an actual method.

I was playing co-op with a friend on Live. We made a garden full of nothing but Whirlms. We have about forty now. I started looking at them and they just... showed up. Not sure what the actual method was for getting them.

dustinmroberts

09-07-2008, 07:26 PM

I thought I made a seperate thread with how, but I guess it didn't post.

I had a 1st wildcard version and a 2nd wildcard version. They were the only two in the garden to start with. Both of them were variented, and they both knew both of their tricks. I made sure they were full candiocity, and then I romanced them. I kept romancing the two of them, until I got to the master romancer one. I finished the maze with all the hearts and got a twin bonus, as well as the wildcard bonus. When the egg hatched, it was twin 3rd wildcard versions. Then I tried it again with the 1st and 2nd wildcard versions, and out came twin 3rd wildcard versions again. Then I tried two of the 3rd wildcard versions at max candiocity, and they produced twin 3rd wildcard versions.

I'm not sure if this method works for other pinatas, but it seemed to work for the whirlms. Also, I'm not sure if the 1st and 2nd ones being variented had anything to do with it or not.

yinyangmama

09-07-2008, 07:27 PM

Grey Jinjo

09-07-2008, 07:29 PM

When I got my third wild card Whirlm they were all regular (no variants). Like I said, we weren't actually going for it so I don't even know when they first started showing up. They may have been at maximum candiosity from breeding. No idea.

EDIT: Third looks like the statue of liberty.

dustinmroberts

09-07-2008, 07:29 PM

that's weird, because the wiki says this is the 2nd wildcard version:

http://pinataisland.info/viva/Image:Whirlm_2nd_wildcard.jpg

Ayla2656

09-07-2008, 07:53 PM

dragonacher

09-07-2008, 08:02 PM

i have a theory and have tested it pretty extensively, i can only make 2 varients of the whirm wc my daughter can make 2 but her 1 is different than mine, now i try to breed the ones she can make and i can't make them even from her pair, but when someone comes into my garden depending on the person they can make from my whirlms the 3rd varient.

my theory is that each of us can only make ourselves 2 of the 3 for us to get the 3rd we either need to get it from trade or from inviting friends and hoping the one we can't get is the one they can.

Backed up. She has helped me. I couldn't get the V3 of the rhino she came in and the 1st romance she did (took an hours :p) it popped out V3. The same thing happened with me with bunnycombs. I got 1st and 2nd but couldn't get 3rd one my my freinds (blazin) comes in. He gets it the FIRST romance. So this is her theory and i'm going to back it up. Come on BIGsheep :p. Please more info?

o Potential o

09-07-2008, 08:20 PM

I've gotta try that...im gonna make a 3rd variant wildcard pretztail and name it Perry the second, because Perry Pretztail is my 2nd wildcard who is ranked 3rd on the leaderboards!

Zap657

09-07-2008, 09:47 PM

Backed up. She has helped me. I couldn't get the V3 of the rhino she came in and the 1st romance she did (took an hours :p) it popped out V3. The same thing happened with me with bunnycombs. I got 1st and 2nd but couldn't get 3rd one my my freinds (blazin) comes in. He gets it the FIRST romance. So this is her theory and i'm going to back it up. Come on BIGsheep :p. Please more info?

If this is the case, we'll probably get alot of "Please come to my garden and help me get WC V3" threads...

So will someone come to my garden and help me get the V3 Pengum? :D :p

yinyangmama

09-07-2008, 09:54 PM

the spammer81

09-07-2008, 10:25 PM

I got a WC sweetle that isn't on the wiki.Go to my profile on vivapinata.com to see it cause i don't know how to put pics >.<

jimmcq

09-07-2008, 10:36 PM

hmmm... well it seems the wiki is having a lot of growing pains right now so the info cannot be trusted 100%. it's easy to see why people would get confused though.

and the beauty of a wiki is that you can edit it. If you think it's wrong, fix it.

yinyangmama

09-07-2008, 10:54 PM

and the beauty of a wiki is that you can edit it. If you think it's wrong, fix it.

i wasn't criticizing it... i know that it's early on and people are just figuring things out. i am but a lowly follower...LOL.

Ayla2656

09-08-2008, 12:33 AM

If this is the case, we'll probably get alot of "Please come to my garden and help me get WC V3" threads...

So will someone come to my garden and help me get the V3 Pengum? :D :p

i can help you if needed just add my gamertag it is same as my name in here

wowplayer49er

09-08-2008, 04:59 PM

do you need to play cop to get the 3rd wc because i can't seem to get my 3rd wc version of the limeocerus. srry for spelling errors

lil_LeLuen v2

09-08-2008, 05:45 PM

that's weird, because the wiki says this is the 2nd wildcard version:

http://pinataisland.info/viva/Image:Whirlm_2nd_wildcard.jpg

hmmm... well it seems the wiki is having a lot of growing pains right now so the info cannot be trusted 100%. it's easy to see why people would get confused though.

That was my picture actually :)
I had like 12 or 13 of those before giving up op on the whirlms (for now)
I also got those by romancing 2 number 1 WC's...

yetizai

09-08-2008, 06:17 PM

My question is this. Once you have the 3rd version if you breed it will you get more third or will they still come out 2nd's on your Xbox?

Bjorn

09-08-2008, 06:59 PM

Could amount of offspring be the key? I am going to try this method:
I plan on collecting all the hearts in each run through the minigame. I will breed two Whirlms keeping the same breeding pair until I have two wc. I will use those two wc as a breeding pair to get the tier 2 wc's. I will then use the tier 2 wc's as a breeding pair to get the tier 3 (hopefully).

Bastion6six6

09-08-2008, 07:16 PM

tried it, dont work, so far the most believable method I have heard is the "can only be done by another player in your garden" or something, tho i have yet to test it.

Bjorn

09-08-2008, 07:22 PM

Have you tried selling all but the current breeding pair so you have to make a full run at it again? Maybe you need x total hearts collected per breeding pair combo? I am just trying to pull as many ideas out of the ether as I can. I will definitely try the co-op breeding theory first chance I get. Do you think it will matter who starts the process? Should the host feed them candy and direct them, or should a guest feed and direct them?

VPplaya

09-08-2008, 07:58 PM

i have a theory and have tested it pretty extensively, i can only make 2 varients of the whirm wc my daughter can make 2 but her 1 is different than mine, now i try to breed the ones she can make and i can't make them even from her pair, but when someone comes into my garden depending on the person they can make from my whirlms the 3rd varient.

my theory is that each of us can only make ourselves 2 of the 3 for us to get the 3rd we either need to get it from trade or from inviting friends and hoping the one we can't get is the one they can.

So if someone sends you a WC, and you breed it with one of your WC's, you can get the third version WC? (By the way, what do the limocerous WCs look like?)

Elwakka

09-08-2008, 08:45 PM

so i was visiting somebody's garden and we started breeding wildcards... we got the 1st (pointed tail) for bunnycombs, then the 3rd (bunny with 6 ears).

couldn't get the 2nd WC (bunny with antlers)

IronicTrout

09-08-2008, 08:48 PM

The limey: 1) a mane (kinda looks like a triceritops)
2) Has two horns
3) has one really long swirly horn (kinda like a spiral)

Ayla2656

09-08-2008, 11:51 PM

So if someone sends you a WC, and you breed it with one of your WC's, you can get the third version WC? (By the way, what do the limocerous WCs look like?)

no you can't breed it yourself even with a pair they made for you, myself and dragonacer couldn't make the 3rd bunnycomb the one with antlers so a 3rd person joined us and was successful, then dragonacher and myself tried to breed the pair of wcs with the antlers and neither one of us could come out with that type of wc

Elwakka

09-09-2008, 12:28 AM

Ok I confirm that you have to do it via xbox live (and no you can't make an empty xbox live game and do it yourself), I had to ask some nublet to do the 3rd (TOOK HIM OVER AN HOUR!)

I did all three WC of Elp to test... pictures below...

1st Wildcard Has A horn in the middle of his head
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7749/elewc1gz8.jpg

2nd Wildcard I got offline had a tri-horn type dealio
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3652/elewc2lu8.jpg

3rd Wildcard I made somebody else get, had question mark horns.
Also he likes male elephants.
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8512/elewc3pc5.jpg

PINATAcast

09-09-2008, 12:52 AM

Tried everything i can think of, perhaps the 3rd wildcard variant is like it was in the first game, completely random? If so it will be hugely disappointing.

i totally disagree. if the 3rd WC is like VP:C WC.. then we got another 2 years play this game.

FeralKitty

09-09-2008, 06:20 AM

no you can't breed it yourself even with a pair they made for you, myself and dragonacer couldn't make the 3rd bunnycomb the one with antlers so a 3rd person joined us and was successful, then dragonacher and myself tried to breed the pair of wcs with the antlers and neither one of us could come out with that type of wc

There's something quirky about the garden you're in, too. Zap stopped by to try with the Geckie, and only got 2 different traits. I sent the Geckies to Zap's garden and romanced them there, and we got all 3 traits.

I also had Zap and Newtgat in my garden, and we couldn't get the Bunnycomb with antlers.

zach

09-09-2008, 06:56 AM

Thanks Elwakka. Wiki (http://pinataisland.info/viva/Elephant#tab=TiP_-_Standard) it?

Ayla2656

09-09-2008, 10:43 AM

no because when it comes to bunnycombs me and draganacher make the same 2 wc but when it comes to limeocaurus and something else i could do his 3rd but don't matter i am just trying to help here and not argue i know how to do it on mine and all that really matters is that i can get all 3 with my friends help

but the part about the 2nd gamertag, it does work it just isn't always the 2nd tag that works it could be the 3rd or 4th because everyone is not different 1/2 can do the one set of 2 and the other 1/2 can do the 2nd but not of the same species as i said me and dragonacher are the same 2 of bunnycomb but different 2 of limeocaurus

yetizai

09-09-2008, 11:23 AM

Ayla,

Thanks for all the great information. It makes sense now the way you laid it all out. I guess it's time to start figuring out who has what so we can all help each other get the WC's they don't have.

I do have question though have you tried shipping a 3rd varient WC egg to someone else? It seems as though the eggs are precoded for WC or not and what level. I say this because if you make Twingersnaps from a WC Syrupent egg it gives you WC Twingersnaps and it hold true to if it is 1 or 2 varient. For example I have 2 versions of WC Twingersnaps and have yet to breed any Twingersnaps at all.

Yeti

thatgeekgirl

09-09-2008, 12:07 PM

I tried last night to also get the antlered bunnycombs but none such luck. I was also trying with preztails at the same time but it didn't happen then either.

I'm going to try inviting my friend over to see if them playing with me will change anything, then if not I'll go get a month of Gold (I'm only a silver account atm) and try some online stuff. :D

I don't know why, I just really want a bunny with antlers. Worpletinger for the win!

Bwgmon

09-09-2008, 12:09 PM

A bit unrelated, but I feel pretty stupid for just now realizing that WC3 Bunnycomb = Jackalope.

wisogeezy

09-09-2008, 03:04 PM

has anyone tried doing it offline co-op has that worked or not

Elwakka

09-09-2008, 04:12 PM

If anybody wants to invite me after they have WC 1 and 2 already in their garden, i'll help get WC 3. All I ask is for you to give me a WC 3 via post office after I breed a few.

VPplaya

09-09-2008, 05:53 PM

I think I have the third version of pengum. I bred a WC Pengum i got over xbox live with one of my own, and instead of havin three yellow feathers coming off of each wing, it has this HUGE head crest in a circle shape instead of the three long feathers coming off its head. Is this the third version WC? (I dont know how to post pictures. Could someone tell me how?)

FeralKitty

09-09-2008, 06:00 PM

Yep, that's the third version. It's kind of like a mohawk.

The best way to do pics is right in-game with the camera tool. You can upload screenshots or PV cards (better) to VivaPinata.com.

Make sure to visit My Page at Viva Pinata.com after uploading a screenshot, to submit it to the Gallery, so it can be linked from that site. (Alternately, you can download the screenshot, and upload it elsewhere to a photo hosting site.)

Then you can use the Image icon in the forum's post toolbar, to add the image (URL) to your post.

VPplaya

09-09-2008, 06:02 PM

Thank you FeralKitty, Ill add picture to wiki

Actually FeralKitty, I made an acount at vivapinata.com and submitted screenshots of them, but under my page it doesnt show that I submitted anything. Could you help?

Telt

09-09-2008, 08:10 PM

Hey guys. Am new to the Site! :D

Just tried following some of the tips mentioned:

A. Two Tier 2 WC Rabbits each a different Variant, Each knowing their tricks.
A1. Two Tier 2 WC Rabbits each a different Variant, Each knowing their tricks but in an xbox live garden with my friend doing the mini game.

B. Romancing my Tier 2 Variant Sweetle with someone elses Normal Sweetle (no WC) on Xbox live in His Garden.

Has anyone got a definite solution on how to obtain a WC3 Pinata?

dragonacher

09-09-2008, 08:11 PM

You CAN NOT get them by yourself. I'll post more later.

dragonacher

09-09-2008, 08:40 PM

yinyangmama

09-09-2008, 08:45 PM

i hope this is something that is still able to be accomplished without needing to work with someone over xbox live. since A) i don't have a gold account, B) i like to be a solitary player. i don't like games that require you to have to work with other people... hence why i'm not a big halo or gears of war fan. me no like multiplayer.

if i can still do it with someone in my own house, then i guess i'll deal with that.

SirMossy

09-09-2008, 08:51 PM

Is there a reason why you cant just let us know? BIGsheep is probably asleep now :)

dragonacher

09-09-2008, 08:57 PM

I don't really know why. Only besides it enocourages trading, co-op, and pinatavision. Sorry, looks like we'll have to wait for BIGsheep :p

Elwakka

09-09-2008, 09:42 PM

So I was just sent a WC 1 and WC 2 and i tried romancing them together, no luck.

I tried romancing THEIR WC 1 with MY WC 2, no luck

I tried romancing MY WC1 with THEIR WC 2, no luck

I tried romancing MY WC 2 with THEIR WC 2, no luck

I tried romancing MY WC 1 with THEIR WC 1, no luck

any other suggestions? lmao

also i can't seem to get WC3 even by joining somebody elses game like a last posted... perhaps it was a fluke? Obviously there is something small we are overlooking

FeralKitty

09-09-2008, 09:43 PM

Honestly, why not just tell people the full details, instead of teasing them?

From what I've been told by dragonacher, you need to trade pinatas to get the third WC in a romance. If someone sends you a species, you should be able to get the final trait by romancing that one.

The idea behind this is to foster co-op, trading, and PV card use.

I know I had a friend over in Co-op yesterday, and we could only get two traits. We got the third trait by sending the pinatas to his garden, and romancing them there. So, this information seems to be accurate.

I'm sure BIGsheep will comment once he's in the office. In the meantime, give this method a shot.

dragonacher

09-09-2008, 09:50 PM

Yep, even if you can't hatch trait 3 and you get two trait 3s you still can't get the third trait.

Btw. Why was this merged :(

FeralKitty

09-09-2008, 10:04 PM

Yep, even if you can't hatch trait 3 and you get two trait 3s you still can't get the third trait.

Hmm... I thought you had an answer, but someone is saying it doesn't work.

Now you're just confusing things by saying you can't hatch trait 3, even if people send you trait 3 WCs.

Why don't you plainly explain what you think works, so people can try it out for themselves, because even I'm confused now by your differing comments.

Klinny

09-09-2008, 10:35 PM

Hey guys, I just got my first V3 Wildcard and thought I would contribute with my experience.

First, I bred a V1 Bispotti in my first garden. Then, me and my boyfriend bred a V2 Bispotti his garden using 2-player couch mode, (which was on a different Profile on the same Xbox).

He sent me the V2 Bispotti via crate which I unpacked into my first garden.

I then packed up all the Bispottis and moved them to a new garden, (due to space). I then bred my V1 Bispotti with his V2 and they hatched Twin V3 Bispottis. I was playing single player at this time.

Here is a picture of the V3 and V1 Bispottis. (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j230/Klinny/0f755d53-b6c8-4925-945d-1a9e57e9c60.jpg)
Here is a picture with all three versions. (http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j230/Klinny/07156725-f567-46ae-b2ef-2d45ddb5f84.jpg)

So it seems that it is indeed possible to get V3 Wildcards without inviting another player to your Garden via Xbox Live. It would seem, however, that trading or multiplayer is still required in some way.

Salamango

09-09-2008, 11:32 PM

I just bred some desert 3rd tier Limes! I have no idea what happened. These pinata were all captured and bred by me, no outside help.
http://www.vivapinata.com/Handlers/VP2Handler.ashx?ID=25CE3FA717C6D29B2878&mode=4
http://www.vivapinata.com/Handlers/VP2Handler.ashx?ID=119500E817C6D2A4DAA7&mode=4

I got those bad boys via breeding two tier 1s... Merf... We seem to be all over the place with this!

FeralKitty

09-09-2008, 11:37 PM

I got those bad boys via breeding two tier 1s... Merf... We seem to be all over the place with this!

You can only get two of the traits. Notice how you're not getting the second one? This is where co-op/traiding comes in.

By the way, before linking to pics at VP.com, you have to go to My Page, and submit the pics into the Gallery. Otherwise, the links won't work for anyone else.

Salamango

09-09-2008, 11:42 PM

I've gotten all three traits... The shield, the double horn, and that one. Maybe I should have pointed that out? I got twins of tier 2, and made one my money pinata, it's my highest valued pinata.

I could probibly take pics of Tags, if you wanted.

Edit: Also, will I have to reenter the URL, now that I've put them into the gallery?

Edit2: I think that me getting all three types of WC in the same garden can be linked to the fact that I got tier 2 with the normal Limes, where as these were dessert desert variants, similar to how the two types are seperating in the count for the minigame. In anycase, I wouldn't want to be Prof. Pester when something with a horn like that comes charging at me.

Bjorn

09-10-2008, 12:15 AM

camerun

09-10-2008, 01:16 AM

there's three versions? cool.

Elwakka

09-10-2008, 02:03 AM

Here is what I have seen in my own garden. I was able to breed ver1 and ver2 wildcard Whirlms. I had about 10 of them in my garden. A friend joined my garden, when he successfully bred two of my ver2 WC whirlm's he got ver3 as offspring. Once he did that I could breed ver3 offspring. However once he left my garden I was back to breeding ver2, even with the ver3's in my garden.

this is very different that what i was experiencing.... i would breed ver1 and ver2, then when somebody else would join, we would just make more ver2....

the first time i bred ver3, it was exactly how you said Bjorn... but lately i can't duplicate it.... =(

ssmaster

09-10-2008, 03:03 AM

I just bred 3 pairs of 3rd generation tigermisu twins (6 total).

I will post pics shortly :)

BTW i am number 1 in the world at the tigermisu romance mini game at 24.08 seconds :cool:

FeralKitty

09-10-2008, 05:20 AM

Edit2: I think that me getting all three types of WC in the same garden can be linked to the fact that I got tier 2 with the normal Limes, where as these were dessert desert variants, similar to how the two types are seperating in the count for the minigame.

It sounds like you got 2 of the 3 traits for the normal ones, and 2 of the 3 traits for the desert one, but you're probably going to need help getting the missing trait for either one.

I just bred 3 pairs of 3rd generation tigermisu twins (6 total).

To sum things up in general, the game seems to let people get trait 1, and either trait 2 or trait 3, on their own. Getting the missing trait apparently requires trading or Pinata Vision.

Did you happen to also get trait 2, since the "3rd" version is the subject of this thread? :)

BIGsheep

09-10-2008, 06:57 AM

Hey guys,

I've seen a LOT of threads been asking about why they can't get the 3rd or 2nd variant of a certain pinata. The truth is you can only get 2 of the 3WildCard variants. Why you may ask. Because it encourages trading, co-op, and using the Post Office. I don't know what really to say more. So I will let BIGsheep reply to this thread about the why and how stuff.

DragonacherFirstly, congrats to Dragonacher and Ayla for being the first people to figure this out. I know a lot of theories have been floating around in even just the short time this game has been out, but they've nailed it.

You can only get two of the three Wildcard variants for each species. Everyone can get the base (i.e. VP:C version) and one extra.

To get the other you will need to find someone who can provide you with one, either by joining their garden and breeding over co-op or hunting down someone to trade with, if you're a little more solitary.

Anyway, good work you two. Consider my forelock tipped in admiration.

Salamango

09-10-2008, 07:20 AM

Always nice to see an encouraging post like that from Mr. BIGsheep. Really lets us know that RARE cares about its gamers.

Anyway, like FeralKitty said, you might have a shot at the missing tier WC via variants from either of the trapping areas.

FeralKitty

09-10-2008, 07:24 AM

i got all three wild card tigers.

just finished up getting the last one a few hours ago.. sleep time.
check out my pictures and see :).

Please don't turn this thread into an "I got all three!" topic. Many people will want to know the answer, so let's not bury it with lots of off-topic posts.

YiazmatLich

09-10-2008, 03:49 PM

BIGsheep do you know if it works by inviting a friend round to play on YOUR 360 with a second controller to get the 3rd WC pinatas?

dragonacher

09-10-2008, 06:03 PM

I want to also post that Alzika helped with theory aswell. It's Alzika, Ayla2656, and me thanks.

Elwakka

09-10-2008, 07:56 PM

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/236/72c783d4ee5a49a9b1c0a09rg6.jpg

So we were able to get these 3rd version of bunnycomb simple. But today we did the same thing....... got version 1 and 2 on my own... then invited 3 other people to my game... and nobody could get the 3rd version. It was very confusing....

FeralKitty

09-10-2008, 09:19 PM

So we were able to get these 3rd version of bunnycomb simple. But today we did the same thing....... got version 1 and 2 on my own... then invited 3 other people to my game... and nobody could get the 3rd version. It was very confusing....

I think trading has something to do with it, as BIGsheep mentioned. A friend and I could only get Geckie 1 and 1, until we sent them to his garden, then we got 1, 2, and 3.

I can get the pointy-tail and the 6-ears, but not the antlers, even in co-op. Why don't you send me an antlers one, and I'll send you a 6-ears one, and we'll see if those trades let us each get our missing trait one?

Bwgmon

09-10-2008, 09:57 PM

I think trading has something to do with it, as BIGsheep mentioned. A friend and I could only get Geckie 1 and 1, until we sent them to his garden, then we got 1, 2, and 3.

I can get the pointy-tail and the 6-ears, but not the antlers, even in co-op. Why don't you send me an antlers one, and I'll send you a 6-ears one, and we'll see if those trades let us each get our missing trait one?

Didn't really work for me, even though I kinda cheated when I tried. I shipped several WC1 and WC2 Pretztails to my brother's account, and went onto his xbox and bred them. every combination later, the only result was WC2s.

Klinny

09-10-2008, 11:22 PM

Didn't really work for me, even though I kinda cheated when I tried. I shipped several WC1 and WC2 Pretztails to my brother's account, and went onto his xbox and bred them. every combination later, the only result was WC2s.

When you bred the V1 and V2 Wildcards together on your brother's account, were the romancing pinatas both originally from your game?

I was just curious, as when I bred my Bispottis I bred one of my own with one from my boyfriend's game, so I think that the breeding pair might need to be from separate player's gardens.

ruinsedge

09-11-2008, 01:55 AM

Here we go, this was the ultimate test.
I have two xbox's one i use, and one my girlfriend uses.
We have 2 live accounts, and two copies of the game.

We both started a new garden at the same time and bred worms.

Master romanced worms until first twin wildcards, romanced them and got our wildcards.

I got the ones with the bunny ears, she got the ones with the frilly necks.
So you can only have two different types of wildcards from breeding. You get your #1 wc, and your #2 wc. But depending on the person, you may get wc #2A or #2B. So you would have to trade, or get someone else to romance them in your garden (if that works) to get all 3 in one garden.

So after trading, heres a picture!
http://www.ruins-edge.com/wcs.jpg

Klinny

09-11-2008, 05:12 PM

Ugh, it seems I made a rather silly mistake. When I was breeding my Bispottis, I was in such a rush that I completely forgot that I had never bred a V2 Wildcard in my own garden. When I got home, I tried it and sure enough I obtained the "V3" Bispotti that I had thought I'd gotten through trading and breeding.

So, it seems that trading the Bispotti had nothing to do with my ability to get all three versions. The one my boyfriend sent me was just the Wildcard that I was unable to obtain myself.

So I'm very sorry everyone; I really should have tested thoroughly before posting.

farrahsdaddy

09-12-2008, 03:09 AM

i got all 3 wc varients of the camelloes without trading. one has the floppy ears, one has like a turkey neck and the other has a huge hump. i did it without trading?!?

PATTY0622

09-12-2008, 06:43 AM

Basically you can only ever get 2 wildcards. The base one and a secondary one. To get the third you'll either have to co-op or trade with someone who can get a different secondary one from yourself.

Cheers !!

Send The Second Generation Wildcard To others people gardens and let the person who has the garden breed your pinatas.

Is Better If you try to breed normal pinatas and get 1st twin/ wild card bouns then breed those twins wildcard bonus and get the second generation then go to somebodyelses garden and released your 2nd generation pinatas to his garden and let HIM breed your pinatas and you (well he) will get the 3rd Generation.

yinyangmama

09-12-2008, 03:22 PM

Elwakka

09-13-2008, 04:37 PM

okay i just tried to search the wiki so i wouldn't get yelled at, but i didn't find this answer. so can someone succinctly explain how you do the 3rd wildcard thing? is it possible to do with two people in the same room on the same console because i don't like to play online (nor can i since i don't have a gold membership).

i believe if you box up two second tier wildcards from one account, then mail it to your other account, you can use those to make a third tier, then mail it back to the original. a little crazy, but will avoid going online.

BIGsheep

09-15-2008, 05:22 AM

That is, of course, if your secondary account can produce the alternate wildcards.

YiazmatLich

09-17-2008, 12:13 PM

Hi,

I was wondering how I can get the 3rd level WC Pinatas. I breed the level 2 Pinata's online (with my friend) and all that hatch are the level 2 WC Pinatas.

We are both collecting all the hearts and are doing it quick enough to get WC Twins.

Can anyone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks

FeralKitty

09-17-2008, 12:18 PM

You can only hatch two of the three traits, and won't be able to romance them on your own. Sounds like your friend can only hatch the same two traits as you. Find someone who is able to hatch the other trait, and invite them. You could trade your trait 2s for their trait 3s, since they can't hatch the trait you can.

xHITMAN COLEx

09-20-2008, 07:49 AM

can some one help me out here. im trying 2 get the third wildcard for some pinatas and i can figure out how to do it.

trueinsanity

09-20-2008, 07:52 AM

If I'm correct, you have to be in online co-op to get it.

xHITMAN COLEx

09-20-2008, 07:57 AM

wat do u mean by online coop

FeralKitty

09-20-2008, 11:32 AM

can some one help me out here. im trying 2 get the third wildcard for some pinatas and i can figure out how to do it.

Read the link in post #1 of this thread, and/or read the wiki's wildcard article.

IronicTrout

09-20-2008, 06:23 PM

Ok I understand how to get all of the wildcard versions, ecxept I hav one question: Do you have to go into the other persons garden or can they come into your garden and do it?

BIGsheep

09-22-2008, 04:51 AM

You can go into someone else's garden if you want, or they could romance them and send you a pair through the crates. Entirely up to you.

TheMightyRam

09-26-2008, 01:54 PM

Okay before you say check the article...

I have and I have no idea how to get the 3rd trait

Do I have to romance the first wild card trait with the second wild card trait or 2 second wild card traits

Im all confused and have no idea so help would be beutiful :D

creg

09-26-2008, 02:02 PM

you have to romance 2 2nd generation wild cards on co-op or so i've heard/read..........

xenocidic

09-26-2008, 02:06 PM

There really is no "3rd" there is Gen 1, then Gen 2A and Gen 2B. If you get 2A you need to trade with someone who gets 2B.

Make sense?

TheMightyRam

09-26-2008, 02:07 PM

Dont think so though mate, I got a guy in my garden and I been going for hours... made like 2 mil in wild cards :/

xenocidic

09-26-2008, 02:08 PM

Some people can only obtain 2A, some can only obtain 2B...

creg

09-26-2008, 02:08 PM

There really is no "3rd" there is Gen 1, then Gen 2A and Gen 2B. If you get 2A you need to trade with someone who gets 2B.

Make sense?

??????? does this mean if i get pengum wild cards with moustaches and mohawk thingys i can't get the last one and have to trade with someone else??

xenocidic

09-26-2008, 02:09 PM

??????? does this mean if i get pengum wild cards with moustaches and mohawk thingys i can't get the last one and have to trade with someone else??

correct. you'll either have to trade, or use a vision card to get the "last" type.

creg

09-26-2008, 02:11 PM

correct. you'll either have to trade, or use a vision card to get the "last" type.

wow thanks for clearing that up i bet TheMightyRam is pleased to know how to also right? **ROLLS EYES**

TheMightyRam

09-26-2008, 02:24 PM

Yea thanks so much ;)

This has worked wonders for me cause all I had to do was get my mate to romance them instead of me and now I have wildcard 1, 2a 2b horsatio

TheMightyRam

09-26-2008, 02:27 PM

Theres one last question...

If I can only get version 2a...

and a person sent be 2 versions of 2b

would I be able to romance the 2b versions myself to get more 2bs or would they come out as 2as

creg

09-26-2008, 02:30 PM

Theres one last question...

If I can only get version 2a...

and a person sent be 2 versions of 2b

would I be able to romance the 2b versions myself to get more 2bs or would they come out as 2as

only one way to find out ;)

Hudson

09-26-2008, 02:33 PM

I don't quite understand what people are saying. I always thought you got tier 1 by romacing two non WC's on the hardest diffulculty of the romance game. I thought you recieved tier 2 by romacing 2 tier 1 WC's on the hardest diffulculty and you got tier 3 by romancing two tier 2 WC's over co-op. So can someone explain to me what all this 2A and 2B stuff is?

TheMightyRam

09-26-2008, 02:34 PM

Looks like there is

creg

09-26-2008, 02:35 PM

FeralKitty

09-26-2008, 02:36 PM

only one way to find out ;)

If you don't know the answer, don't post. If you know the answer, post it.

No, you can only make two traits, and even if someone sends you the third trait, you can't romance them to get the third trait, yourself.

This is intentional. You have to trade, scan, or find someone who can romance that trait for you.

As for the 2A/2B convention that someone made up, it's not how the wiki, game, or devs treat it. There are three traits. Some gamers will always get trait 1 and trait 3 for a species. Others will always get trait 1 and trait 2 for that species.

Hudson

09-26-2008, 02:40 PM

So actually how does someone get the tier 3 in the first place ie how does someone romance to get a tier 3 WC.

FeralKitty

09-26-2008, 02:43 PM

For the zillionth time, you can only hatch 2 of the 3 traits for a particular species. You can't get the third on your own by romancing. You have to trade, scan a PV card, or use co-op with a gardener who can hatch the trait that you can't.

Hudgy_Pretznilla

09-28-2008, 04:34 AM

Is there any specific way to tell which one is the 2nd tier and which one is the 3rd tier when each one of us can only breed 2? I always think the wildcard I get from breeding the 1st tier is the 2nd tier, but sometimes the wiki says the wildcard is the 3rd tier. It is kind of confusing.

Zap657

09-28-2008, 04:58 AM

xenocidic

09-28-2008, 12:43 PM

There really isn't a definition between "tier 2" and "tier 3". It would be more accurate to say "Tier 2a" and "Tier 2b" (and even then we wouldn't be able to decide which trait is which), the only reason it says different on the wiki is because the first person who edits in the trait descriptions/images uses his/her tier 2 as the "official" tier 2. Whereas the second person who edits in their tier 2 WC (with a different trait) uses the unoccupied tier 3 slot.Right, this is why I came up with the "2A" and "2B" distinction. The fact that the wiki uses tier 3 is because we simply didn't know how these things were going to work. Saying "3rd gen" really just confuses things, in my opinion - 2A and 2B make more sense - but its a little easier to just say 2 or 3.

tapewormlondon

10-12-2008, 03:14 PM

I can make the first and second wildcard types for all pinatas I have tried. However I am unsure how you make the 3rd types (although I have managed it by accident a couple of times),

Are the third types random or is their a way to guerentee it, like with nos 1 & 2?

Zap657

10-12-2008, 03:24 PM

Everyone can get the first WC, but the second and third get a little more complicated. It'd be more accurate to call them WC trait 2a and 2b. Everyone can get one of the two on their own, but to get the other you have to trade with someone who can get one for you, or scan a PV card.

romancer

10-12-2008, 07:16 PM

in another forum, where a member reports how he got all three WC Fourheads by himself, Feral Kitty writes: "You can only get two of the traits (on your own) by romancing, so if you had tried to get all three that way, it wouldn't have been possible.

Since you used both evolving and romancing, you were able to get one that you couldn't have romanced, by yourself"

perhaps that provides some insight into your quest....-- and mine, too. :)

FeralKitty

10-12-2008, 08:03 PM

This is actually explained on the wiki's wildcard article.

o Potential o

11-22-2008, 11:23 PM

Okay...hopefully this helps solve some confusion.
BarkBark has 3 WC versions: #1: Curled Tail ALL PLAYERS CAN GET THIS NO MATTER WHAT!!! #2: Oversized Nose and #3: Big Ears (Info taken from wiki)
Player 1 can only get WC BarkBarks 1 and 2 alone.
Player 2 can only get WC BarkBarks 1 and 3 alone.
In order for player one to get WC version 3, Player 2 must give him one, or breed them for him.
In order for player two to get WC version 2, player 1 must give him one or breed them for him.
IF PLAYER ONE BREEDS TWO WC'S HE WILL GET TRAIT 2, EVEN IF THE TWO WC'S HE BREEDS ARE TRAIT 3, AND VICE VERSA.

Royal BIiss

02-22-2009, 01:14 AM

I understand how to get the first gen wild card but how do I get the second and third gen?

FeralKitty

02-22-2009, 02:30 AM

Did you check out the wiki's wildcard article (or search the forum)?

You romance two of the first-trait WCs, to get one of remaining two traits. To get the final trait requires help from (or trading with) another player who can produce that trait.

The40year-oldHorstachio

06-23-2009, 06:57 PM

I got someone else in my garden to do it for me, but we couldn't guide the Whirlms to each other and make them romance. They even had hearts over their heads. What should we do?

rebelicious1976

06-23-2009, 07:19 PM

That's an odd occurance. I've never heard of that happening before. Here is two suggestions. Try either saving & quitting, then turn off your console. Reload the garden. If that doesn't work pack up whirlms & their home & start a new garden. When my game is acting funny, one of the two usually fixes it.

wildcard2794

06-23-2009, 07:54 PM

was the garden too full or do you mean inside the maze?

The40year-oldHorstachio

06-23-2009, 07:59 PM

I had like 30 something of them... Maybe that was the problem.

reklaw_vahn

06-23-2009, 08:21 PM

I had like 30 something of them... Maybe that was the problem.

The number of Whirlms can exceed thirty, I just think you were having some bad luck, sometimes pinatas won't do what you want them to, like how the Choclodocus will sometimes stop making pinatas happy after a while. I would suggest maxing the candosity of two different Whilrms and trying with them...

VPRocker

06-23-2009, 08:58 PM

I had like 30 something of them... Maybe that was the problem.

lol my whirlm garden has 51 of em

reklaw_vahn

06-23-2009, 09:12 PM

lol my whirlm garden has 51 of em

My word, that is a lot of Whilrms!!

TC, did you get your issue figured out yet...tell me which WCs you have and I will help you get the others if you haven't...

FeralKitty

06-23-2009, 09:16 PM

Are you asking someone who can hatch the third wildcard trait on their own?

If you both can only hatch traits one and two, being on Live won't let one of you hatch a different trait than you normally can.

Sonar

07-06-2009, 01:18 PM

I just found out you don't need another person to join your garden to get the 3erd variant of a wild card (only if you want twins). but just for the WC a camera lets you scan all 3 in from the wiki.

hey_its_me

07-06-2009, 01:33 PM

cool!! if only i had a card... or a CAMERA!!!

FeralKitty

07-06-2009, 01:39 PM

The wiki's wildcard article has mentioned that detail for a long time.

Sonar

07-06-2009, 07:34 PM

The wiki's wildcard article has mentioned that detail for a long time.

Maybe so but I didn't read it until now thanks for the wiki link. I don't intend to read the wiki for everything :D Ide like to find out a few things for my self.

timtheking

07-07-2009, 11:16 PM

How to get the wildcard variant of the {2nd} and {3rd} versions. For example, I have the one with the Antlers on the Bunnycomb, but my friend has the one with the extra ears. So, It really comes down to each player only has one of the {2nd} and {3rd} version wildcards and you need to use Pinata Vision or trade someone for the version wildcard you DON'T have.:)

Mason757

07-27-2009, 02:30 AM

i heard from my friend it has to be 2 wildcard2s and they both have to be from a diferent person. is this true?

FeralKitty

07-27-2009, 02:32 AM

Nope, not true in any way. If you want the straight scoop, you should search the wiki.

The wildcard article (and many forum posts) has details on how to obtain the third one.

Mycowisonfire

07-27-2009, 04:56 AM

Ok many this will help when you do the mini game at max and you get your egg it bass a chance to be any of the 3 the of the 2 left when you do the mini game with the 2 of your fist wc you get one or the other style and finnaly to get the 3ed on you have to trade with some one who got that one. Hope this helps you out